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	<title>Comments on: a Bible that influences thought rather than dictates it</title>
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	<description>sometimes things just need to get practical</description>
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		<title>By: thom</title>
		<link>http://motionsickness.ca/2008/11/06/a-bible-that-influences-thought-rather-than-dictates-it/comment-page-1/#comment-44988</link>
		<dc:creator>thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if where your post lead me is the same direction that you were headed in writing it, but here goes.

I have thought for a while that if you want to reach people, you have to talk to address the world they live in. The Message should be brought into their lives be leaders who discuss what is happening in the lives of their followers, using the Bible as a source of inspiration. 

I imagine a Church where the members can write down questions or problems and drop them anonymously  into a suggestion box. And that will become the subject of future services. I also imagine a Church where the local newspaper is a source of inspiration for services. I think if Christians want to be relevant to the world around them and reach the people around them, they must look at the problems and situations that face those around them and talk about those things openly and honestly. 

Those are my two cents.
Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if where your post lead me is the same direction that you were headed in writing it, but here goes.</p>
<p>I have thought for a while that if you want to reach people, you have to talk to address the world they live in. The Message should be brought into their lives be leaders who discuss what is happening in the lives of their followers, using the Bible as a source of inspiration. </p>
<p>I imagine a Church where the members can write down questions or problems and drop them anonymously  into a suggestion box. And that will become the subject of future services. I also imagine a Church where the local newspaper is a source of inspiration for services. I think if Christians want to be relevant to the world around them and reach the people around them, they must look at the problems and situations that face those around them and talk about those things openly and honestly. </p>
<p>Those are my two cents.<br />
Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://motionsickness.ca/2008/11/06/a-bible-that-influences-thought-rather-than-dictates-it/comment-page-1/#comment-44975</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m tracking.  George MacDonald used to say that the scriptures are not all truth; rather the scriptures point us to Jesus, and the Spirit leads us into all truth.  The scriptures are, in some sense, a conduit more than a destination.  They&#039;re a connection, and if that connection is not made, then we miss their worth (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%205:39-40;&amp;version=51;&quot; title=&quot;bible gateway&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John 5:39-40&lt;/a&gt;)

The challenge is always to find our story, our stories, within the Biblical narrative.  So when Paul addresses a particular issue or question, he often does so by retelling his readers&#039; story within a much larger story in which Jesus is restoring heaven to earth.  For example, when he wants to talk of the human condition in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%201&amp;version=51&quot; title=&quot;bible gateway&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romans 1,&lt;/a&gt; he craftily employes stoic philosophy in such a way that it fits within the narrative of the Fall, so that we all know the truth, having it in our nature/image and in the world/garden around us, we all reject it in favor of false knowledge, thinking ourselves wise we worship created things, and we end in abandonment by God, broken human relationships, and death.  Adam and Eve&#039;s story is more than just a story, more than application and understanding; it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; story.  McLaren and Sweet were right: the Bible taught plainly is neither inductive nor deductive, but &lt;em&gt;abductive.&lt;/em&gt;  Can you help TOH find themselves and their city within the stories of the scriptures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m tracking.  George MacDonald used to say that the scriptures are not all truth; rather the scriptures point us to Jesus, and the Spirit leads us into all truth.  The scriptures are, in some sense, a conduit more than a destination.  They&#8217;re a connection, and if that connection is not made, then we miss their worth (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%205:39-40;&amp;version=51;" title="bible gateway" rel="nofollow">John 5:39-40</a>)</p>
<p>The challenge is always to find our story, our stories, within the Biblical narrative.  So when Paul addresses a particular issue or question, he often does so by retelling his readers&#8217; story within a much larger story in which Jesus is restoring heaven to earth.  For example, when he wants to talk of the human condition in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%201&amp;version=51" title="bible gateway" rel="nofollow">Romans 1,</a> he craftily employes stoic philosophy in such a way that it fits within the narrative of the Fall, so that we all know the truth, having it in our nature/image and in the world/garden around us, we all reject it in favor of false knowledge, thinking ourselves wise we worship created things, and we end in abandonment by God, broken human relationships, and death.  Adam and Eve&#8217;s story is more than just a story, more than application and understanding; it&#8217;s <em>my</em> story.  McLaren and Sweet were right: the Bible taught plainly is neither inductive nor deductive, but <em>abductive.</em>  Can you help TOH find themselves and their city within the stories of the scriptures?</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, would not the alternate interpretation by the Spirit need to be measured by the Bible? Let&#039;s take the Wesleyan Quadrilateral for example: All tradition, reason and experience is weighed by Scripture. 

It concerns me when we put too much emphasis on &quot;[our] personal interpretation of life.&quot; Perhaps my concern is from my own experience of being consistently wrong. I need to have something to gauge the decisions I make. I like how NT Wright speaks about the Bible as being authoritative in the Last Word and I think a big challenge of the postmodern generation is to get past our authority issues and trust that the Bible even plainly taught has a lot to offer in the &quot;how to&quot; aspect of our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, would not the alternate interpretation by the Spirit need to be measured by the Bible? Let&#8217;s take the Wesleyan Quadrilateral for example: All tradition, reason and experience is weighed by Scripture. </p>
<p>It concerns me when we put too much emphasis on &#8220;[our] personal interpretation of life.&#8221; Perhaps my concern is from my own experience of being consistently wrong. I need to have something to gauge the decisions I make. I like how NT Wright speaks about the Bible as being authoritative in the Last Word and I think a big challenge of the postmodern generation is to get past our authority issues and trust that the Bible even plainly taught has a lot to offer in the &#8220;how to&#8221; aspect of our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Eggers makes his TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School &#124; Video on TED.com &#171; Incarnation Instant Breakfast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Eggers makes his TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School &#124; Video on TED.com &#171; Incarnation Instant Breakfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eggers makes his TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School &#124; Video on&#160;TED.com  After my last post on motion sickness I have had a few friends ask me about these &#8220;TED Talks&#8221; and I should say they have been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eggers makes his TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School | Video on&nbsp;TED.com  After my last post on motion sickness I have had a few friends ask me about these &#8220;TED Talks&#8221; and I should say they have been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the open house &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dave Eggers: 2008 TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School</title>
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		<dc:creator>the open house &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dave Eggers: 2008 TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my last post on motion sickness I have had a few friends ask me about these &#8220;TED Talks&#8221; and I should say they have been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my last post on motion sickness I have had a few friends ask me about these &#8220;TED Talks&#8221; and I should say they have been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Eggers: 2008 TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School &#171; Incarnation Instant Breakfast</title>
		<link>http://motionsickness.ca/2008/11/06/a-bible-that-influences-thought-rather-than-dictates-it/comment-page-1/#comment-44970</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Eggers: 2008 TED Prize wish: Once Upon a School &#171; Incarnation Instant Breakfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eggers: 2008 TED Prize wish: Once Upon a&#160;School  After my last post on motion sickness I have had a few friends ask me about these &#8220;TED Talks&#8221; and I should say they have been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
		<link>http://motionsickness.ca/2008/11/06/a-bible-that-influences-thought-rather-than-dictates-it/comment-page-1/#comment-44969</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life comes at us from all directions.  My interpretation of my experience comes in the midst of my relationships, knowledge and influences.  I wonder if the &quot;plainly taught Bible&quot; is not needed to reveal an alternative to my personal interpretation of life.  And that revealed alternate interpretation empowered by the Spirit transforms the life of an individual and ultimately a community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life comes at us from all directions.  My interpretation of my experience comes in the midst of my relationships, knowledge and influences.  I wonder if the &#8220;plainly taught Bible&#8221; is not needed to reveal an alternative to my personal interpretation of life.  And that revealed alternate interpretation empowered by the Spirit transforms the life of an individual and ultimately a community.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://motionsickness.ca/2008/11/06/a-bible-that-influences-thought-rather-than-dictates-it/comment-page-1/#comment-44968</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps part of this is learning to engage with the Spirit as we go through our lives, day to day. Changing our perception of the Bible as a answer book to any question we may have, but instead viewing it as a way to learn the tone of how the Spirit works. 

At the same time. The Bible taught plainly is full of practical theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps part of this is learning to engage with the Spirit as we go through our lives, day to day. Changing our perception of the Bible as a answer book to any question we may have, but instead viewing it as a way to learn the tone of how the Spirit works. </p>
<p>At the same time. The Bible taught plainly is full of practical theology.</p>
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